Oh No! Tony Stelik is going to kill himself!

"Indeed FSP is the last chance or there will be nothing left, worth of living for." - Tony Stelik

Pretty scary stuff Tony. Don't you have kids? Check out this site Tony : http://www.finalexit.org/ Just trying to help ;)

Tony Stelik
Southington CT 06489

I wonder what the Tony Stelik - John Babiarz connection is. John Babiarz was born in Southington, CT and only moved to Grafton, NH about 11 years ago. John B's parents still live in Southington, CT. I think Tony S. and John B. are both Polish too.


http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=48;action=display;threadid=7280;start=msg101822#msg101822

"Feeling like adding my 2 cents to this discussion….

As fare as I am familiar with the Free Town Project, it was not a monolith in any sense shape and form organization.

There were at least three competing groups of people hoping for acquiring inexpensive land and house. Although general idea of complementing existing political shape in considered towns, and Grafton was on the top of the list, was semi- driving motivation, in reality the prevailing consideration for most of interested in the project was economical reasons and political outcomes being a byproduct.

Further, free town project never evolved more than to loose discussion group on the yahoo forum. There is no one who could represent free town project. All what could be represented are various, also loosely formed, business oriented groups and Zack was not a member of any – as fare as I would know.

I am trying to think what Tim and Amanda were doing at the town meeting since FSP never endorsed free town project discussion group, nor it endorsed any particular business group. Bob Hull does not belong to any group and his land investment is strictly individual affair. He did not even take major part in discussions, not alone in discussions with Zack. Mike Lorrey was involved in one of business groups and his attendance could be justified at the meeting, but he was exactly opposing Zack all the way and should be rather amongst audience at the meeting. The only person or persons who should be answering the questions are Zack and one or two others who shared Zack’s opinions.

Zack is a libertine. He has any right to be whatever he wants to be, and if he made a noise he should have enough courage to face the people he addresses and take a stand like a man to defend his position. The all interested in this case are "Zackoniaks" and the people of Grafton. Unfortunately I see Zack did not have enough integrity to be where needed and take responsibility to answer the questions. Others had to cover his behind with better or worse effects.

As to Zack’s history I have to take his side however. He was charged for having child pornography stored on his computer. In effect he was accused, he lost his case in the court and he won appeal (democrats dug this out). I know Zack and I would be more than surprised if he would happened to be a pedophile. On the other hand he is rabbit individualist and his downloading of the pictures might be just a form of protest. What right has the government to tell anybody what sides you can or can not visit on the web? If the source owner does not object to download files, what business has the government to tall you what is legal or illegal to download? Is not the internet beyond any jurisdiction of any agency? I myself, unbuckle when I see road block and police officers checking if the drivers are buckled up. And for the same reason. What the government business in deciding how I am protecting myself? What I am blaming Zack for, is stupidity. In his age and experience I would expect such a person should know, since long, be libertine can only hurt him, and if somebody can be associated with him will be hurt to. Opposition to liberty can, and always uses any tricks to scare the people and play them against potential friends. Libertine is creating enemy to his own believes with the total contradiction to reason.

The conclusion of all the mess Zack created is that he single-handedly, perhaps shut down free town project in any form in Grafton and wherever else. Zacks page and the logical consequences of it, I have to consider as initiation of force against all porcupines." -tony stelik


Tony, it was not just Zack. You all have pretty much the same goal for Grafton as Zack. Please stop trying to blame Zack for everything, because it is simply not true. You are part of the problem too, along with your buddy John B. Did you forget about the Blue Floridian tour in Feb.? You and Tim and Zack and Bob chose Grafton as the freetown. Who talked you into that?

Didn't Tim tell Bob he was going to buy some of the land before it was purchased? Who is Bob going to sell the land to, democrats? If Bob's buying land is an individual affair, why is he buying it under a bunch of differnt name? And at the town meeting people quoted the freestateproject site, not just the freetownproject site.

You can try all the revisionist history you want, but it does not change the past. And why do you keep blaming democrats? Who told you the meeting was full of Dems? Is that just marketing to the other porcupines?